2025 Mapo-gu Travel Guide: Must-see attractions, popular food, hotels, transportation routes (updated in March)

The decoration is very beautiful, it is an industrial style restaurant I really like many decorations But coffee is a bit bitter and I'm not used to it. Sesame coffee is quite special, but it's also slightly bitter. The toilet is a bit dirty and may need to be cleaned more thoroughly I think pesto pasta tasted okay.

A great place to visit on a public holiday in Mangwon-dong is Cafe Bivon, a trendy cafe. Cafe Bivon, with its unique name, boasts a simple and modern interior. Located on the third floor, it offers a nice view and is a popular spot with a waiting line even on weekdays. If you're looking for a modern cafe in Mangwon-dong, this is the place to go. Enjoy a relaxing coffee and dessert at Cafe Bivon.

#AtmosphereBar #100TravelStyles #Couples Introducing a new LP bar that just opened in Hongdae It's called Supersonic. It's a sophisticated LP bar But since there aren't many seats, you can enjoy it more privately. They'll play your requested songs right away, so it's a great place to have a drink while listening to your favorite songs. If you go on a date here it'll be a total success!? **Location - Supersonic 3rd floor, 301, 262-6 Donggyo-ro, Mapo-gu, Seoul

#GoodAtmosphereBar #100TravelStyles #Couples Did you know that a new lounge bar opened in Hongdae? It's a place with live jazz performances and the atmosphere is crazy. The food is delicious, and you can enjoy a glass of wine while enjoying the live performance! The performances are different every day and the admission fee is cheap, so it's a great place to have a drink after work or go on a date. **Location - New Orleans Jazz Lounge 14 Donggyo-ro 23-gil, Mapo-gu, Seoul, B1, International Building

✔️Business Hours: 11:00 AM - 8:30 PM Oh, I stumbled upon this place by chance and it was delicious!! The food came out quickly and the portions were generous, haha. I usually don't like thick noodles, but the thickness of the noodles in their Mazesoba was just right, and I enjoyed it very much. The initial spiciness is as described, similar to Shin Ramyun! The sauce was rich, giving it a savory taste rather than a vinegary one, making it very tasty. The atmosphere of the restaurant was also great, and the seating was spacious, so I had a wonderful time :) 👉Menya Seven Mapo 53 Mapodaero 4-gil, Mapo-gu, Seoul, 1F

#solotravel Mapo-ok, a Seolleongtang specialty restaurant chosen in the Michelin Guide 2018-2024✨️ The kimchi that was brought out had a slight punch of spiciness🌶 I ordered the most normal Seolleongtang☺️ The beef was thick and tender, and the quantity was generous, so it was very satisfying! The rich yet light soup can be mixed with salt to taste 🧂✨️ It contains rice and somen noodles, so you can eat it with kimchi or add them inside ✨️ It seems a little more expensive than other seolleongtang restaurants, but the deliciousness is worth it 🥰 *⋆✈-—————*⋆✈-—————*⋆✈ 📍 마포옥 / Mapook 50-13 Yonggang-dong, Mapo-gu, Seoul 50-13Weekdays 7:00-21:00Saturdays and Sundays 7:00-17:00*⋆✈-—————*⋆✈-—————*⋆✈ Thank you for reading to the endLikes and comments are encouraging🫶#KoreanGourmet #SeoulGourmet #KoreanGourmet #KoreanGourmetTrip #Korea #0YenTrip #100TravelStyle #MapoGourmet #Mapo

Located in Nanji Hangang Park, Wave Hangang is a floating cafe where you can enjoy a direct view of the Han River and beautiful sunsets🩵. Not many people know about it yet, so it's not crowded. Wave Hangang is a great emotional cafe to relax with a cool drink and a fantastic view👍. ✅Wave Hangang 📍296 Maponaru-gil, Mapo-gu, Seoul 🕰️Weekdays 12:00~22:00 / Weekends 11:30~22:00 ❗️Closed on Mondays

The weather is so hot, but if you want to go on a date somewhere pretty, look at the beautiful Hangang River view, see the clear sky, and enjoy a nice date while watching the sunset. A floating cafe located in Nanji Hangang Park is great for a nice date~ ✅Wave Hangang 📍296 Maponaru-gil, Mapo-gu, Seoul 🕰️Tue~Fri 12:00~22:00 / Sat~Sun 11:30~22:00 ❗️Closed on Mondays #IndoorDate #HangangViewCafe #FloatingCafe #WaveHangang

#cherryblossom2024 Mugwort desserts have a distinct herbal flavor that might not be for everyone, but they often have a pleasant earthy taste with hints of bitterness. Some enjoy them for their unique flavor, while others find it an acquired taste. Overall, its interesting to always try something new 😋 would recommend the mugwort latte 💯 📍Motunui Island 서울특별시 마포구 동교로 251 Seoul, Korea

#KoreaTrip This time we went to a tofu specialty restaurant✨ This is my first time going to a tofu specialty restaurant in Seoul! I went there because it has been awarded Michelin many times, so I was looking forward to it🥳 In addition to the tofu pancake I ordered, there was a wide variety of tofu dishes, including raw tofu, tofu balls, stir-fried tofu, and tofu kimchi🤍 The menu was also quite extensive, with bulgogi, meat pancakes, bossam, and several types of jjigae, so it was hard to decide what to order😳! We ordered dubujeon and soybean pulp soup, and jjigae made with meat from Jeju Island♡ The friend who went with me had been to the restaurant several times and recommended dubujeon, so I tried it, and I was impressed after just one bite🤩! The outside is slightly fried so it's a little crispy and fragrant, and the inside is fluffy 🤍 The deliciousness of the tofu spreads all at once ✨ It's the best tofu I've ever eaten 🥳! Now I'm looking at the photo and I want to eat it again 🥺 The okara soup is creamy and has a gentle taste ✨ I ordered the red jjigae, so I'm glad I got to enjoy both different soups 😍 The jjigae wasn't that spicy either ❤️🔥 The menu is extensive, and there are many non-spicy dishes, so I think it's safe for people who don't like spicy food and children ♡ Gongdeok is a station where the airport line stops and is close to Seoul Station, so it's easy to visit even on a trip 💁♀️ 𑁍𓏸𓈒𓂃𓂃𓂃𓂃🕊𑁍𓏸𓈒𓂃𓂃𓂃𓂃🕊 📍Hwanggeum Compat 황금콩밭(Golden Bean Field) 🏠9, Mapo-daero 16-gil, Mapo-gu, Seoul 🚃Line 5 308m from Exit 4 of Eogye Station 🕰️11:30-21:30 Break time 15:00-17:00 Weekends 11:30-21:00 Break time 15:00-17:00 Last orders are 1 hour before closing for both lunch and dinner #Korea #Korean food #Korean gourmet #Seoul trip #황금콩밭 #Seoul gourmet #Seoul trip #Korea lover #Gongdeok #Korea information #Korean gourmet information #Korean gourmet trip #Korea solo trip

#KoreaTrip Sangsu, Seoul, Korea There is a very stylish cake shop there. The cakes are so artistic and stylish that it's almost a shame to eat them 🥹 They also sell madeleines, which are colorful and very cute! The second floor is a cafe space and is spacious, so I recommend it 💛 It's close to Hongdae and Hapjeong, but it's a little far away, so I think it's a hidden gem ☕️ 📍Dongdae Hongdae 19-9, Woosarong 17-gil, Mae Honggu, Seocho 🚃351m from Sangsu Station 🕰️12:00-21:00 #KoreaTrip #Korea #KoreaTourism #Tourism #Overseas #OverseasTrip #AsiaTrip #Seoul #SeoulTrip #KoreaOnly #KoreanFood #KoreanGourmet #Gourmet #GourmetTrip #CoupleTrip #GirlsTrip #KoreanCafe #KoreanCafeTour #Cafe #CafeTour #CafeLover #VisitKorea #VisitKoreaDiary #Trip2023

#Japanese and Korean urban attractions Address – 232-12 Seongsan-dong, Mapo-gu, Seoul, South Korea Environment/Facilities-Korean-style shop Specialty - All-you-can-eat soy sauce shrimp and crab Price per person: $120 Rating - 90 The name of the store is Hongik Sauce Crab 홍익게장, located in Mapo-gu, about 15 minutes' walk from Exit 1 of Hongik University. It is a bit far, but it is ok with the mentality of consuming energy first and replenishing it in the next breath. There is only Korean 홍익게장 on the sign, and you have to get closer to see the banner under the sign that says "Hongik Sauce Crab". However, the store is easy to recognize from the outside, so it shouldn't be hard to miss. We arrived around 5 or 6 in the afternoon and there were quite a lot of people there, including tourists and Koreans. Because the price-performance ratio is so high, I suggest you come early! Otherwise, there should be a long queue after 7 o'clock... After you are seated, you must first choose a set meal. The store has three options: 21,900 won (about HK$140) - Soy sauce crab + soy sauce shrimp + spicy crab (all you can eat) + flower crab soup pot 19,900 won (about HK$126) - Soy sauce crab + soy sauce shrimp (all you can eat) + flower crab soup pot 17,900 won (about HK$114) - Soy sauce crab + soy sauce shrimp (all you can eat) Nick chose the middle-priced 19,900 won (about HK$126) - soy sauce crab + soy sauce shrimp (all you can eat) + flower crab soup pot set meal. In addition, the store also provides side dishes: steamed egg and kimchi pancake each. The broth of the flower crab soup pot is red, and it contains shrimp, half a crab, vegetables, and a lot of bean sprouts. The taste is tasty and not too spicy. I eat a lot of Thai raw shrimp sashimi, but this is my first time eating Korean soy sauce shrimp. The flavors are quite different, and both are delicious! The soy sauce crab is also fresh and delicious, the crab meat and crab roe are sweet, and the store provides a bowl of rice. The Korean way of eating it is to stuff the rice into the crab shell, and eat it together with the soy sauce, crab roe and rice ~ It really goes well with rice! $120 It’s hard to find such a price. You can’t even buy half a soy sauce crab in Hong Kong. This restaurant offers all-you-can-eat fresh and authentic soy sauce shrimp and crab. The price-performance ratio is really perfect! #Korea #Seoul #Korean food #Value for money restaurant

Go to Korea, don't know where to go, go to Hongdae, youuuuu #Food, shopping, pubs, bars, teenage district #Will take you to see the Korean teenage district in Hongdae ~ Take a walk | Eat street food | Eat fried chicken with beer | Go to a nightclub Hongdae 홍 대 | South Korea Hongdae is the center of Korean teenagers, a district of food, restaurants, cafes, shopping, karaoke, walking streets and street art. It is next to the subway, very easy to travel, near Hongik University. Hongdae is really good, I want you to try it. During the day, walk and take pictures on the streets of Hongdae, eat any street food. Stop by CU, a convenience store that everyone knows. You can see it wherever you go. Sit and eat ramyeon, eat rice balls wrapped in seaweed, following the Korean series you like to watch. It feels like a Korean person. In the evening, there will be teenagers who dance and cover dances. It's great. At night, walk around, eat fried chicken with beer, go to a nightclub and get drunk and go home. A day is worth it. #Go to Korea, you must go to Hongdae. Let's go! “Hongdae is not just a place, it is a living street.” Hongdae 홍 대 Mapo-gu, Seoul, South Korea #Take you to see #Travel to Korea #Hongdae #Korean walking street #Korean nightclub district #Korean youth district #Review Korea #Travel to Korea by yourself #travel #Waiting for the day to travel

🇰🇷Visited June 23rd🇰🇷 A restaurant in Hongdae where you can eat aged meat🥩 [청돈옥 Jeongdongok]🙂🤍 Here you can taste the finest aged meat, made from clean Korean female pigs, dry-aged using the restaurant's own method🤤🤍 Their signature dishes are samgyeopsal and moksal!! 🐷🤍 And here's the great thing about this restaurant!! Samgyeopsal must be ordered for 2 people or more, but moksal can be ordered for 1 person or more🥹🙌 Great news for solo travelers!! 🥹✨ This is a rare restaurant where you can eat yakiniku by yourself☺️🤍 What I ordered was✏️ ✔️1 portion of moksal (200g) 18,000w ✔️Chonggukjang 7,000w ✔️Bibimbap 4,000w 🙂 First of all, the beautiful meat that was brought to us🥩🥹✨ It was thick and so beautiful!! The staff grilled it all until the end☺️ The moksal was crispy on the outside!! It was refreshing to eat and the flavor of the meat was packed in and it was so delicious🥲✨ This made me want to eat samgyeopsal next time!! When I asked for a side dish recommendation👂 I ordered chonggukjang as well🙂 ...and it was also really delicious!! ! ! 🥹✨ The chonggukjang was filled with meat inside! ! It's more fragrant than smelly, and the cheonggukjang is very easy to eat🥹🤍 The bibimbap with beautiful vegetables comes with sesame oil, so when you pour sesame oil and cheonggukjang on top and bibim... it's already a blissful taste🥹🤍🤍🤍 It's so delicious that it might be worth going just to eat it!! ! Must order it with meat☺️🤍 I'm happy to have found a great restaurant where I can eat yakiniku alone for the first time in a while🥰 Next time I want to eat samgyeopsal, so I'll go with Ching🙂🤍 🏠청돈옥 📍Seoul Mahoga Jeongdae-ri-ro 6-gil 10 1st floor 🚇 Line 2 Hongik University Station, 8 minutes walk from Exit 9 Hapjeong Station, 5 minutes walk from Exit 3 ⏰ 11:30-22:00 Break time 14:30-17:00 Last order 21:00 #Korea#Korea trip#Korean cafe#Korean gourmet#Korea information#Korean trends#Korean fashion#Korean food#Seoul#Seoul trip#Seoul gourmet#Seoul cafe#korea#Korea solo trip#I want to connect with people who like Korea#I love Korea#Shin-Okubo#Going to Korea#Going to Korea information#Preparing to go to Korea#Going to Korea record#Going to Korea report#Hongdae gourmet #Hapjeong gourmet #Hongdae #Samgyeopsal #Moksal #청돈옥#Overseas travel

I found a place that makes Cuban sandwiches. I was happy to find a place that makes the sandwiches in Korea. It is located near exit 7 from Hongdae station. Afterwards, I headed to Sulbing near exit 9. It was packed and filled with people. It was a Sunday evening so I would not expect anything different. The dessert was great. It hit the spot. Situated on the outskirt of Hongdae is Cafe de Rabbit. It is located near exit 3. They have rabbit shaped snacks, alcohol, coffee and fresca. It is four floors. They have a outdoor terrance to enjoy while relaxing. It is far enough that you are not in the middle of the nightlife. But close enough to still go to a club or hop back into the scene. #hongdae #Cubansandwich #dessert #Relaxinthecity

#seoul One of my favourite attractions included in the Discovery Seoul Pass is the NatureLab museum in Hongdae. The exhibit we visited was, Pieces of Time: Season,.

It showcases Korea's unique seasonal beauty through stunning and immersive flower art and digital media displays. With eleven interactive halls to explore, visitors can experience breathtaking projections that transport them into a world of butterflies and flowers to illuminated sparkles and mirrors. 

Additionally, the museum offers a refreshing escape from the crowds that often accompany other famous projection exhibitions around the world.

Hongdae is a tourist destination in Seoul, Korea. It is known as a town for young people, and has many trendy shops, cafes, and restaurants, making it one of the most popular towns in Korea. Here is an introduction to a ramen shop in Hongdae. You can actually eat Jiro-style ramen here, which is rare in Korea! Lots of garlic and back fat! Also with lots of bean sprouts, bamboo shoots, and large pieces of roast pork! The noodles are thick and flat, so they are very satisfying! It is a very satisfying dish for men, but may be a bit too much for women. I am very happy that Jiro-style ramen has made its way to Korea. 📍566 Ramen ▶︎Address 33, Yunam-ro, Mae-ho-gu, Seoul ▶︎Business hours 11:30-20:30 Break time from 15:00 to 17:00 ▶︎Closed day Thursday #Korea trip #Korea #Korea tourism #Tourism #Overseas #Overseas travel #Asia travel #Seoul #Seoul trip #Korea only #Korean food #Korean gourmet #Gourmet #Gourmet trip #Couple trip #Girls trip #Korean cafe #Korean cafe tour #Cafe #Cafe tour #Cafe lover #Visiting Korea #Visiting Korea diary #Trip2023 #Hongdae #Yeonnam-dong #Ramen in Korea

Introducing Chaeguro, a complex cultural space with a wide view of the Hangang River. A panoramic view of the Hangang River unfolds as you get off the elevator〰️ A cafe where you can read books and chat quietly. The space is well-divided and no matter where you sit, the view of the Hangang River through the large windows is so niceㅠㅠ💓 I also recommend it for #indoordates regardless of the weatherㅎㅎ #CafeWithAGoodView #IndoorDate #BookCafe #SeoulBookCafe #HangangViewCafe #HangangView #SeoulComplexCulturalSpace #Chaeguro

#tripmemory2022 Yeonnam-dong is a hotbed of cafes in Seoul, Korea. It is located close to the tourist destination of Hongdae. It is known as a town for young people, and is one of the most popular towns in Korea, with many trendy shops, cafes, and restaurants. This is an introduction to a cafe in Yeonnam-dong that is said to be a famous cherry blossom spot🌸 The name of this shop is [연남동벚꽃집], which means Yeonnam-dong cherry blossom house💕 The shop is decorated with cherry blossom petals, so you can enjoy cherry blossoms inside the shop♩ It was a little late when I visited, and the cherry blossoms had already turned into leaves, which was a shame, but I was still able to enjoy the beautiful cherry blossoms that are unique to that time of year🌸 Sakura cream latte 7,000 won 📍 연남동벚꽃집 ▶︎Address 50, Dogur-ro 29-gil, Mae-ho-gu, Seo-ok ▶︎Nearest station 11:00-22:00 Fri-Sat-Sun 11:00-23:00 #KoreaTrip #Korea #Overseas #OverseasTrip #AsiaTrip #KoreaOnly #KoreanFood #KoreanGourmet #Gourmet #foodie trip #couple trip #girls trip #Korean cafe #Korean cafe tour #cafe #cafe tour #cafe lover #trip2022 #Seoul #cherry blossom viewing

If you eat it at a place where you dip the flat noodles in udon sauce, the chewy texture of the noodles and the flavor of the sauce go so well together, it's great.. I even ate mentaiko butter udon, a flavor unlike any I've ever had.. It's a flavor you really have to go and try at least once in your life. Personally, out of the two, you should definitely try the flat udon.

this is the most delicious food very delicious. here there are many types of food. and includes home-cooked meals that are very convenient for all ages to eat. here is also a very comfortable place even though it's expensive here but it's still worth the food and the place. Address: 70, Mangwon-ro, Mapo-gu, Seoul (Mangwon-dong) Price: Omurice with crab meat 12,000 won Stir-fried red pepper japchae ramen 12,900 won #foodie #awesomepic

This is Cafe Scone, a cafe that was remodeled from a house in Yeonam-dong. As the name suggests, the sweet scent of scones fills the room as soon as you enter. I recommend it because it is famous for its delicious lemon cake! Although I was full and couldn't eat it, I will definitely go next time! There are also various interior props that I really want to collect :) There is a rooftop terrace and the rooms are divided, so it's fun to look around the interior. It's a really hot place on the weekends, so I recommend visiting on a weekday! #Cafe Scone #Cafe #Cafe with a good view #Hot place #Cafe recommendation #Cafe #Yeonnam-dong #Yeonnam-dong cafe #Bakery cafe #Yeonnam cafe #Hongdae cafe #House remodeling cafe #Hongdae hot place #Seoul cafe

#picnic #Mapo Saebit Cultural Forest Mapo Saebit Cultural Forest is a newly built park next to Dangin-ri Power Plant. It's not very big, but it's a good place for a quick walk and a weekend picnic with kids❤️ If you go in spring-early summer, you can also see colorful flowers blooming everywhere! If you go straight from the entrance, you'll see a small fountain rising from the ground. Kids really like it>< There's also a small playground for kids on one side, so it's perfect for a weekend picnic with kids, right? 💕 However, when the sunlight is strong and it's hot, there's not much place to hide. There's not much shade than you'd think ㅎㅎ (You should take that into consideration when you go) 📍Location: Dangin-dong 1, Mapo-gu, Seoul

#createwithtrip This massive Mapo market is housed in a giant wholesale warehouse and offers a litany of deals under one roof. While many markets focus on one thing, this one offers everything from fruits and vegetables to prepared “banchan” (Korean side dishes) to fresh seafood.Rest assured that these are wholesale prices.

🍘Address: 17-12 Samgae-ro 1-gil, Mapo-gu, Seoul 🍘Price range: Ansim Katsu / Sirloin Katsu 9,000 won 🍘Review: Introducing 'Asobiba', the mecca of pork cutlets in Mapo Station. Asobiba is a famous pork cutlet restaurant that Mapo office workers have to wait in line for, so much so that they can't eat until lunchtime is over. I ate Ansim Katsu, and it was really tender and melted in my mouth..! It was great to be able to eat high-quality pork cutlets at a reasonable price. I recommend it to those who are going around Mapo Station👍🏻 #WaitingRestaurant #MapoRestaurant #MapoHotPlace #SeoulTravel #DateCourse #LocalRestaurant #GourmetTour #Asobiba #PorkCut #PorkCutRestaurant #AnsimDonkatsu #GourmetConquest #SeoulTravel #GourmetExploration

This is the famous strawberry cake restaurant 'Peony' in Hongdae ٩꒰｡•◡•｡꒱۶ I always visit this place because their strawberry cake is delicious I ordered strawberry cake slices and drinks this time too! The strawberry cake slices were so refreshing and delicious with lots of strawberries and cream inside ٩꒰｡•◡•｡꒱۶ I think the soft milk cream goes well with the strawberries For drinks, I ordered strawberry juice, cream latte, and caramel macchiato. The caramel macchiato was sweet and delicious. They drew a rabbit on the foam with caramel sauce. ㅎㅎIt was cute They made fresh strawberries, so the strawberry flavor was strong and good! Cream Latte was delicious because it had a lot of sweet and chewy cream on top of the cafe latte ღ'ᴗ'ღ When you're craving delicious strawberry cake in Hongdae, look for Peony! ✏Location 56 Eoulmadang-ro, Mapo-gu, Seoul ✏️Opening hours Daily 12:00 - 22:00 ✏️Menu Strawberry Slice Cake 6,300 won Strawberry Juice 5,000 won Cream Latte 6,000 won Caramel Macchiato 5,300 won #SeoulTravel #HongdaeRestaurant #HongdaeCafe #Cafe #HotCafe #CakeRestaurant #DessertRestaurant #StrawberryCake #Cake #Strawberry #StrawberryRestaurant #Peony #RestaurantExploration #Cafe

Yeonam-dong in Vietnam, no, Vietnam located in Yeonam-dong!! I can't tell if this is Vietnam or Koreaㅠㅜㅠ The moment I arrived there, it was Vietnam٩꒰｡•◡•｡꒱۶ I missed traveling to Vietnam, so I went to 'Ban Mi Phuong' to remind myself of traveling to Vietnam! I looked for it because I liked the exterior, and sure enough, they were selling Vietnamese food๑ ❛ ڡ ❛ ๑ I ordered three: Hanoi rice noodles / BBQ banh mi / Cha cho!! I didn't really like rice noodles, but the rice noodles here were really deliciousღ'ᴗ'ღ It was the most delicious rice noodles I've ever had ㅎㅎ I felt it was more delicious than the ones I had in Vietnam~!! And Cha cho was my first time eating it, and it was so crunchy and delicious!! I regret not eating this in Vietnam. I want to eat it again. ㅠㅜㅠㅠ Banh Mi also had a lot of barbecue meat in it, so it was so delicious. The portion was so big that I couldn't finish it all and left some! Whenever you miss Vietnamese food, run to Banh Mi Phuong! It was a place that reminded me of Vietnam because even the exterior was Vietnamese. ✏️Location 20 Seongmisan-ro 29-gil, Mapo-gu, Seoul, 1st, 2nd, 3rd floor ✏️Opening hours Every day 11:00 - 21:00 ✏️Menu Hanoi rice noodles 9,000 won Barbecue banh Mi 7,000 won Cha jo 7,000 won #Seoul travel #Yeonnam travel #Mapo travel #Banh Mi Phuong #Rice noodles #Cha jo #Banh Mi #Vietnamese food #Vietnamese food restaurant #Rice noodle restaurant #Yeonnam-dong restaurant #Regular restaurant #Hidden restaurant

#IndoorDate ㅇ Location: Izakaya Godori ㅇ Address: 73 Yanghwa-ro 6-gil, Mapo-gu, Seoul, 102, 103 ㅇ Business Hours: 18:00-05:00 ㅇ Signature Menu: Stir-fried Chadol Sukju ㅇ Rating: 🌟🌟🌟 If you want to date near Hapjeong Station, go here!!! There's not much waiting, the atmosphere is good, and the food is okay👍🏻 It's no secret that the owner is kind >..<